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The Music Industry is slitting its own throat

Scott Manning
February 18, 2003 | Comments (65)

The biggest menace to the Music Industry is not piracy, but it is the Music Industry itself.

I have sat back, watched, and stayed silent as the Music Industry has executed a modern day witch hunt on file sharing services. Between the lawsuits and propaganda, one thing has become clear: The Music Industry cares more about making money than it does about making music. That statement may not hit as hard as I would like it to, so let me rephrase it: If the Music Industry could make more money through prostitution, they would run the biggest whorehouse this world has ever seen.

It does not matter if an artist has passion or talent; just as long as he matches the profile of the next big trend. By matching the trends, the Music Industry is trying to ensure that they will make money. And when the Music Industry does not guess the trends correctly or the trends happen to change, they blame it on Internet piracy. Before that, they blamed it on tape and CD copying.

Pump out the trendy CDs. Get the money. If the money does not come, blame it on the pirates. Repeat process.

The evidence of this endless cycle is smacking the world so hard in the face that we are all very sore. The Industry as a whole cares nothing for establishing artists that will last or creating memorable music that will be listened to for generations to come... unless it will make them money.

The Music Industry has been losing money for the past three years and using Internet Piracy as the scapegoat. I am here to tell the world that the Music Industry, and all who believe their propaganda, that you are deceiving yourselves.

People will buy quality CDs
I, like most people, bought only one CD last year. I opted not to pay the outlandish 19 bucks for The Scorpion King soundtrack and, instead, bought The Eminem Show.

For those of you who don't remember the drama at the time, Eminem's new CD was scheduled for a June 4th release date. Two months beforehand, the entire CD was available on the Internet and fans were downloading. In a panic, Interscope Records decided to release the CD earlier than previously announced. Then, panicking even more, Interscope Records released the album a week earlier than the new date without announcement, causing the company to lose millions in planned promotion.

It was a Saturday when I noticed that The Eminem Show was suddenly available. I immediately bought a copy. As the cashier checked me out, he mentioned that he had the whole album downloaded a month ago. I asked him if he planned on buying the album too, and he said, "Hell, yeah."

Even though the album was loosely available throughout the States for only three days of that week, it sold 285,000 copies and took the number one spot on the Billboard's chart for that week. The album went on to hold the number one spot for nearly two months. Ten months later, the album is ranking in at number 16.

Not only that, but The Eminem Show sold 7.6 million copies during 2002 to be the biggest selling album of the year. The second bestselling album in 2002 only sold 4.6 million.

Album sales as a whole have plunged 10.9% since last year. But, when everyone talks about the album sales of 2002, they always say something along the lines of, "Album sales were horrible last year, Eminem excluded."

Why? Why would they exclude Eminem? All of these people who have reviewed the top selling albums of 2002 have missed the whole point. When they say "Eminem excluded," they are really saying that the only artist that put out a decent album last year was Eminem. And, for the most part, it's true.

This is what everyone is missing. People complain about how the Music Industry pumps out crappy CDs with one decent song on each one. They then expect us to pay 16-19 dollars for said piece of crap. But none of these people are pointing out that Eminem put out a CD last year with 20 solid tracks and people bought it even though they already downloaded it two months earlier. They also neglect to mention that Eminem's last CD sold 7.9 million copies during 2000 at the height of downloading from Napster.

So am I saying that Eminem is the only decent artist, right now? No. Eminem is the only decent artist that the Music Industry is currently backing properly. He is the only one that the Music Industry has taken a chance to get his name out so people will buy his CD. Even with Internet piracy running rampant, even with a struggling economy, even with a whoring Music Industry, Eminem proved that people will still buy a quality CD.

And if the Music Industry cannot see that, they deserve to continue to lose money until prostitution is legalized.


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Comments (65):
1) Posted by: Dave
February 21, 2003 6:33 AM

An interesting discussion would be on 50 cent, and the huge success that his album has had so far (1.6 million sold in 10 days.) Here is an artist that had a massive buzz generated before his album was released, and much of that buzz was created through the Internet. Eminem and his protege, 50 cent, both used creative marketing tactics for both of their albums, and this was a huge reason for their success I think: including a DVD with a limited number of albums, releasing snippets of songs onto the Internet weeks before the albums were released, bumping up the release date. I think that especially with 50 cent's release, the record industry is going to release that the Internet is a huge marketing tool, and not just a conduit for piracy.


2) Posted by: Billy Blass
February 21, 2003 9:18 AM

I disagree about the content issue being the problem. If the industry chances trends every couple years, then there still has to be a band/group/genre that is the initial catalyst. In the heavy metal/antisocial realm, bands like Nirvana and Korn come to mind. Those bands set trends. Linkin Park's one album success sparked a lot of trends recently too. Trends are good in the way it inspires the outsiders to crack into "the unique thing" to set off a new trend. This has been shown time and time again.

I don't own any of these because even if I bought the CD, I would convert it to MP3 format for my MP3 players that I usually live and die by. So why buy the CDs? For the artwork??? Gimme a break. I buy real paintings when I buy artwork. You can go to their websites and get multimedia artwork, rather than some oldschool mass produced CD sleeve.

Lastly, when we talk about "good" music, you can't bring any rock or rap into it. I mean technically speaking, they are all crap compared to the classical masters surviving centuries already. I like "emotional" and some pop music, but don't go around saying Emimen is a world breakthrough. He'll be like looking at "Kool and the Gang's" music contribution, 20 years from now.


3) Posted by: FLYGUY
February 22, 2003 5:17 AM

S, I totally agree with your article. The labels ***** and moan and still put out crap and expect it to sell as it did many years before P2P when could listen to the tracks. My grumble is that if you were a fan of an artist they would spread tracks on to soundtrack albums and foreign releases making fans pay huge amounts of money to get these tracks. Like everything in the world these days, people are just becoming that bit more aware of what is going on, and that businesses are not gods!
keep up the god work
FLYGUY
p.s excuse the poor punctuation and spelling-in a hurry!


4) Posted by: AutomaticJack
February 24, 2003 10:13 AM

this is directed at Billy Blass; I'm not flaming you so don't get pissy because I'm disagreeing with you. 1) have you ever bought a painting? I'm sure the erquired response is "yes" but I doubt it. 2) while you may not like Rap or whatever, Eminem is, without exaggeration, a bona fide WORLD breakthrough artist. there are several reasons for this, all legitimate and you can do a simple web search to find out those reasons. You don't buy cd's because you feel it's just for the art ("old school mass produced cd sleeve"? how old are you, 14?). buying cd's supports the artists' as well, aside from any grumblings about the raping of their royalties. and those "old school" sleeves are produced by artist and designers who are paid by the record industry. and the marketing and promotion work, all employ artists and desingers. there's a lot more than just the war between the artist, the buyer and the ominous record company.
So, yes, it is about quality content. I just bought the new Ministry cd (plug, plug plug) because it's a good album and they deserve my money. If you don't like certain trends or styles, cool. but that doesn't justify discrediting their accomplishments (re: Eminem). As we get older, we must learn to accept the things we cannot understand, even if it hurts a little.


5) Posted by: Billy Blass
February 24, 2003 5:00 PM

AutomaticJack -

Eminem... is not a "world class" breakthrough. I'm not saying he isn't good for what it is, and yes, I downloaded it before it came out. He executed what he does - well. He's a funny scrwny white dude that has a good gimic. He's full of teenage angst, has Dre and the marketing-hood backing him, and looks like any wanna-be tough guy from any American suburbs. Luckily, he has a different sound than the rest of the pack, but he's still no longterm world-class act.

Yes, coincidently I downloaded Ministry's new one last night (not having read your post).

Yes, I "buy" real art, and I have an undergrad degree in fine art. I could also give you rates that record companies pay for "work for hire" freelancers to do the covers and layout. Fine art is one of a kind... music is mass market. That's the difference. With music, you either adapt where the trend is NOW, or you try to exploit a niche market to make it cool. Eminem went after the suburb kids who wanted to think they were tough, and Dre and Co. have exploited him well. That's why Dre banked 50 mil last year and his puppet didn't.

Let me think who's a world class rap act... NWA was a world class rap act. They defined a genre. That was something no one heard anything quite like - before it came out. Dre stopped dressing in drag after they took off with that '88 (?) "Straight out of Compton" release. Beastie Boys have survived and tried a lot of different stuff. Eminem?... give him a couple more years to taper off. His content and persona can't sustain itself. You really expect to see him 15 years from now, when he looks like Motley Crue's and Great White's lead singer (overweight) and trying to still be a tough kid from the burbs? He'll be replaced by some other kid to market. You obviously haven't been around long enough to see the cycle. I've been actively seeing it cycle for 20+ years and at the beginning of MTV.

5 years from now Eminem will probably be bankrupt on a VH1 special and touring clubs like Great White was playing. He'll hang out with Vanilla Ice and talk about the good ol' days of being a puppet.


6) Posted by: rob
February 27, 2003 5:19 PM

QUESTION ?

>

EXACTLY.

If you're not going to buy a CD because of cost or quality the music industry gets nothing - and if you download it on MP3 and listen to it but still don't pay how have the music industry lost anything?


7) Posted by: Dave
March 2, 2003 7:47 PM

Good Article Scott.


8) Posted by: John
March 7, 2003 5:38 PM

rob,

It doesn't matter whether the industry lost anything or not. They own the material and just because you have an easy way to steal it doesn't make it right. If it is not worth it to you because of "cost or quality" then don't buy it (or steal it!)


9) Posted by: Frankie
March 11, 2003 2:40 PM

One thing that I believe pists off the industries these days is not much the competetors, but the people themselves. I read this article, and I believe that industries could come up with a conclusion to all of this cd copying bulls%$t. Manufactures should try to come up with cd's that cannot be either copyright, or cannot be introduced to the internet. It is a mystery to me whenever i go online to burn a song, that the question comes in my head. ? Where do all of these come from. Who is actually putting these songs on the internet, for others to burn. If there could be a way that industries, could track down these pirates, and kick them off the internet world. Than industries would do just fine. This topic bothers me, because it deals with me in my career that I am going to pursue. I want to be a record producer, and own my personal industry. I know I will have the same problems in the future because piracy will still remain, just as hacking will still remail in the internet world. I also have to make a comment about Eminem. I like eminem, not because everybody wants his fu#$ing balls. But the fact that this white rappers compare to others, have given opportunities for other white rappers to make it. Even though it has been said that Eminem has closed down the doors for white rappers. But come on now...! Do you really think industries havent had the thought, ? well what if we get this guy, that has another trend, or this guy that has a different style. It will happen..... I've even seen it on the internet of supposevly new white rappers comming out soon....Most of you make think I'm some stupid white boy that is racist, or some sh#$. Well I'm hispanic, and not even close to white. And if i ever get my label going, all i have to say, is that anybody that can rap of any culture, has open doors to my crib....


10) Posted by: Lani
March 11, 2003 7:10 PM

I enjoyed and understood the point you were trying to send across, and i absolutely agree, to the information about the music industry, the trends, etc.....Thisk information was very resourceful, especially since i am studying the music industry for an upcomming project, but i also had a question due to the way music has changed, and for that matter, how songwriting has changed, especially with music like rap, pop, and so forth.


11) Posted by: Kazaa
March 13, 2003 11:25 AM

I buy CDs all the time and lend them to friends. I assume they make copies. I make CDs for my long car commute that contain just songs I want to hear. So is this illegal? I bought the CDs, I own them, I should be able to do what I want with them. The stuff on Kazaa is basically poor quality anyway. If I really like something, I'll buy it.


12) Posted by: Mads
March 31, 2003 6:32 AM

I download tracks of the net all the time, mostly because i want to discover new and lesser-known bands. If i like it, ill order the cd, if not, the tracks ends up being deleted...


13) Posted by: suppamanlover
April 5, 2003 5:09 PM

Some of u are missing the whole point, ok first of all emeinem is not just some flash in the pan artist as some of you believe but i'm not gonna go into why he is not the big picture is, the fact that artists basically want money and the faster they can produce some worthless album the more money they make , right. Ok now rappers are basically walking trends there are few artists in the rap world who don't start a trend . Now eminem is an artist with alot more on his mind than these suburban kids that couldn't buy rythym which u would know if u actually listened to his work (Mr. Art-Buyer no person who buys art can tell me about rap first of all)I've been around since the begining of mtv but does that matter they weren't playing the rap artist then anyway until they seen how much money bet made off rap city with cris thomas rap is the future still which is why there are rappers like nelly selling as many albums as your pop stars not that i like nelly but those suburban kids we spoke of earlier will buy anything to make them fit in including the black artists since u were scared to say it eminem is the greatest rapper to touch a mic and that does not make him prone to falling off like you say it will just leave him a legend of rap like big and Pac but i guess I just been rapping and listening too long Damn you suck and u should really stick to art cuz you're rap world knowledge stinks and who listens to classical these days anyway


14) Posted by: T
April 6, 2003 12:17 PM

Frankie, what the hell are you talking about? You cannot MAKE a CD that cannot be introduced on the Net and copy protection schemes don't work. If you knew anything about software, you'd know that. Do you really think that RIAA companies don't want to protect their investment? They do. They've tried. It doesn't work. Even DVD encryption has been hacked.


15) Posted by: frost
April 16, 2003 3:00 PM

get a life


16) Posted by: Me
April 21, 2003 9:02 PM

Well i dont know if this happend in the english music industry like the spanish but to my understanding artist dont make alot of money of cd or dvd sales . they make money from their concerts.


17) Posted by: Brad
June 29, 2003 12:02 AM

I agree entirly with the article. In addition KaZaA helps the music industry becasue personally if I want a new CD then I download about half of it on KaZaA and If its any good I'll buy the Cd because If the artists can make something good enough to buy then people will buy it. KaZaA only hurts the music industry if all but 2 or 3 songs on a Cd suck. Piracy shouldn't be a problem crappy music is


18) Posted by: Marissa Marchant
July 16, 2003 8:48 PM

Hi, I am a genius.
a big one.
I am a one woman beatles on the next level. I think that 19 dollars is nothing for genius.
but if it isn't genius..it should be sold for 10 bucks. I sell my music for one hundred dollars. Do you value art??? People don't place a high value on art.
they buy over one hundred dollars a month on booze and cigarettes.
Don't people realize that artists who are extreme are worth money???
do people realize how much work goes into making and creating genius. I write everything..I am as high level as it gets and vocally as well..I am trying my endless original and strong material..and plays a few instruments.
I wasn't signed..because I am too interested in upping the level of quality...
I am higher level then anything they have had as a solo artist..because I endless strong songs in almost every genre,,and have unusual vocals and instrumentals..
but the higher the levels of talent..the more money it costs...the most time..the more investment..and the more refinement..
refinement and class is nowhere to be found in the entertainment field...
people who are brilliant scare people in this country.


19) Posted by: Hmmm
July 21, 2003 7:22 AM

Yes, yes... that's *very* interesting...

Please note people, artists are being screwed by RIAA just as much as they are trying to screw P2P.

Marissa, I hope your sense of humor develops to the same level as your "genius"... But I do agree with your point about the quality, but it's not about the customer not buying quality CD's

It's about the Recording Industry Sh*tting itself and not pushing anything other than safe-as-houses bubblegum pop. (ok I'm exaggerating)

As the executives in the music industry feel the pinch, because guess who get's fired when targets aren't met. They shore up and take as few risks as possible, get behind ludicrous scheme's to damage the long term future of the industry, because they are so short-sighted.

Scott's points about the fact that only one decent CD was released in 2002 is metaphorical, sure YOU might not dig eminem but were there a whole bunch af great major releases that you "Just had to own!"

Personally, my CD purchases have not been affected by P2P, my CD buying dropped off when I was in my early twenties and started making my own music...

P2P just means I can get hold of tracks that I'd probably not buy anyway...

But here's the thing, when I was too young to have money to buy the latest chart sounds I just taped them off the radio, if I loved a band, I'd buy their LP in a snap... (or as soon as I'd saved enough money)

So is it "my" fault that their are less artists being promoted that people LOVE enough to buy their tracks?

It's so true that the music industry has lost it's way... and it happend a long time before P2P was around.

That's my bit.


20) Posted by: mike
September 8, 2003 1:37 AM

it goes hand in hand.

less people are buying cds bc its easy to download them.

It really is true, but musicians of the past who were amazing made no money and died poor. Just bc america has allowed this to evolve as far as it has, doesnt make it right. Making millions bc you rap about hoes is itself a mockery of our society just as the RIAA going after p2p and basic human freedoms is.

Its along the same lines as the recent patent case with microsoft: they are a horrible dictatorship in the computer world, but plugins were not invented by that 2 bit asshole who just won 520 million.

The RIAA is not going anywhere however, and its our own fault that they have all the money. We couldnt find anything better to do all these past years but hopelessly worship whatever the hell new thing they were selling each month. So its fruitless to blame anyone but ourselves.

One can only hope all this thug shit will disappear like 80s glam-rock, but i dont forsee that happening either. My 2 cents


21) Posted by: lucy
October 8, 2003 7:36 PM

>>>>>The RIAA is not going anywhere however, and its our own fault that they have all the money. We couldnt find anything better to do all these past years but hopelessly worship whatever the hell new thing they were selling each month. So its fruitless to blame anyone but ourselves.>>>

I agree, and the RIAA scare tactics of suing the parents of young kids who've downloaded tracks on Kazzaa or grokster is not going to win them any new friends.


22) Posted by: Greg
October 30, 2003 9:32 AM

The traditional music biz is in a tailspin, record labels have slashed 25 percent of their workforce worldwide over the past 2 years.....Game over!


23) Posted by: Myst
December 6, 2003 1:18 AM

Ok, this is probably my first time and last time viewing this place... but i couldnt leave without saying something, this is a interesting a a big problem in our society...
The main reason for all this Piracy (sp) is because most people these day's think:
Well i dont have the money right now to go out and spend 16-19$ on a cd, so i have a computer, so why not go on Kazza- Winmx- IMesh- Twister 2.0- etc... and download the cd.
Or they will go off and have there friend download it for them.

Thats basically summing it up.

So now that this whole bootlegging thing has become a problem, Record Companies are lowering the prices for cd's.
Sam Goody was probably the most expensive cd store out here in Washington-Oregon, they sold there cd's for like 18.99, now it's 16$... as for other places i see cd's for 14-15$

And for Eminem, man i hear that name anywhere and everywhere...
A few of you folks say, he'll die off. I believe he has proved himself and others that he will be around for quite a while, how so? CAUSE HE IS TURNING PRODUCER LIKE DRE. he will put out a couple more cd's if so, then since he has a Record Company "Shady Records" he will sign more people, and either produce there tracks, and exec. produce others.

Well, thats just my oppinion... bitch at me if yah want... But this is just a oppinion from a future music artist.


24) Posted by: emily
January 4, 2004 5:44 PM

there is going to be a classical revival and a performing arts MEGA BOOM. wait for it and boogie oogie woogie!


25) Posted by: K
February 29, 2004 9:21 PM

:what it should be:
Music is about the music. If the big companies go down and everyone pirates music do you honestly think no new music will be made?! What a funny mind it would take to think that! I believe the future holds a large amount of low profit (non profit?) internet based record companies, with artists who make music in their spare time, for very little financial gain, possibly just donations from those who believe they are worth it, artists WHO MAKE THE MUSIC BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT. And all will be good. Unicorns will roam the earth while all live as brothers without boundry violence or hunger. lol. Well, i'm right about the music. It cannot die, only the companies and the old ideas can die. Music cannot.

:on rap:
Quannum collective (in particular DJ Shadow) have made contributions of enormous quality. Eminems are more or less quantity based. And yes, i am a LITTLE BIT disapointed with Gift of Gabs Solo Album and Unimpressed by Lyrics Born's latest offering, before anyone mentions it.

:on copying:
Hahaha whatever is done, if you can play it you can copy it. If very cunning protection is developed that takes a while to crack then you can always make a good quality analog copy while you wait for clever people, not the script kiddies and wannabies, to crack the protection and enable digital copying.
There is absolutly no way you can prevent something from being introduced on to the internet.

;THE INDUSTRY;
I agree about the industry killing itself entierly. Aged about 14 i realised just about everything i heard and listened to was crap, good songs were few and far between. My money was no longer spent on music. I still copied some crap CD's that i listened to once or twice and eventually lost or threw away. I began downloading music aged 15 when we got the internet at home... i found things worth listening to now and then and most of what i really liked i couldnt find in the shops. Then along came napster etc (and most recently the RIAA induced MUTE) Over three years i ended up downloading silly amounts of music, most of which i listened to a few times and then deleted, discovering many quality artists. I'm spending a significant amount on music nowadays, anything i think is quality i'll go look for on vinyl, and when i find it i'll buy it. Of course this is going to anger the RIAA and other big Recording Monoliths also, because i have been taken away from them as a customer altogether: over the course of 5 years i've discovered that i don't have to take what they try and force feed me, i don't have to go with the trend. And above all else i've discovered so much music i love. I obtained Squarepushers Ultravisitor Album in late January, listened to it through and through, and i'm still eagerly awaiting the release date, desperate to own and hold two black plastic discs. Information is so readily avalible nowadays, that people are begining to take it in, and based upon it, actually make a choice.


26) Posted by: K
February 29, 2004 9:29 PM

wtf!!! you list my ip address!!! i dont care if you blank the first 3 numbers!!!! Delist it at once please. I'm all for privacy. Fair enough EVERY WHERE the IP is Logged, and a little trail follows me about, but i don't appreciate even the last 8 digits being avalible for anyone to see, especially if its STATIC!!! 256 is not many numbers to go through!


27) Posted by: FATCAT
March 17, 2004 10:55 AM

MUSIC IS A LIE. IT ISN'T REAL/ IT NEVER WAS RIAA I HOPE YOU SHOOT YOURSELVES IN THE HEAD AND ALL THE INDUSTRY FAT CATS WHO SIGN BAD MUSIC AND I MEAN ROCK AND RAP TOO, NOT JUST POP, I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE NO JOBS TO GO TO. IT IS YOUR OWN FAULT YOU SIGN ROCK AND POP ARTISTS JUST COZ YOU WANNA FUCK THEM! U WANT TO GET THEM INTO BED RATHER THAN INTO A STUDIO. I WILL NOT SUCK CORPORATE COCK FOR THAT.


28) Posted by: Cheap Laptops Nut
April 8, 2004 12:41 AM

Music makes me feel alife. I don't care where it came from. If I have to pay I'll pay...


29) Posted by: marissa marchant
May 30, 2004 12:39 AM

excuse me idiot....my sense of humor...their are women are geniuses in the world..like mozart fool!
women who are like einstein, in face einstein's wife gave him alot of his ideas,
you laugh at women. I am one of the finest american composers and singers in history. I am one of the best musicians in the world...
I kick behind...and I am more multi talented then everyone in the history of the record industry. I write on the highest level..I write everythin, theatre music everything for voice..and I am a double virtuoso...Beethoven female and male...they boycott your stupidity and stupid comments..the beatles were not geniuses....wake up


30) Posted by: Telemetry
June 27, 2004 2:01 PM

alot can be said if you take into consideration that the entertainment/music industry generates probably trillions of dollars from the American people every year. The recent trends within the music industry have been enough to make me sick. Take unAmerican Idol for example, the heads in the corporate realm of music realized that the quality of music itself was beginning to suffer from the stranglehold they placed on talent, and a few years later as sales slip, we have this television show brainwashing the mainstream culture. You no longer need talent to make a record, you just need an image. What does that do to the music industry you ask? well, I believe it forces the true creative musicians further into the underground, left alone to create another new genre or style of music that will define our next decade... just as rap and grunge came about during the early 80's force feeding of star search to the mass-market.

as an artist, I will tell you that I am fed up with the politics of it all, and that there alot of other musicians that feel the same way. I think in the near future, you will see more inventive artists emerging with thier own independant labels, uninhibited by what is popular or mainstream to make a buck, and using the internet as a tool to reach out to the true music listeners. The industry will more than likely catch wind of it, and plug it into mainstream, capitolize on it... make millions, and beat until it's no longer fresh.
Unless there is a huge revolution with the industry, the cycle will just repeat itself another 20 years from now, they will be bitching about getting free music beamed into your cerebral cortex via telepathy, and how it violates copyrights... blah.

so is it more important to fit in with it all, or use what they give us to break the mold, and break new ground?


greed is the enemy of creativity.


unite!


31) Posted by: §evin
July 2, 2004 3:11 PM

1930-1950: jazz, blues, hard bop, big band, be bop...
1950-1960: rock and roll...

1960-1970: British rock, experimental rock, ?

1970-1980: disco, funk, hip hop(rap), r&b, punk, ska, heavy metal, gothic rock, new wave, raggae...(?)

1980-1990: contemporary rock, grunge rock, speed metal, german metal, hair metal, techno(electronica), break beat, Chicago house, brit pop(synth pop), euro pop, (LA-NY)gangsta rap, soul...(?)

1990-2000: alternative rock, rap-rock, death metal, revival of ska and punk, jungle, drum and bass, detroit techno, hardcore techno, rave, disco house, funky house, LA breaks, experimental trance, goa trance, NRG, hard house, speed garage, southern hip hop, midwest hip hop, euro hip hop, glam rap, etc...(?)

2000-2004: THERE'S JUST TOO DAMN MANY GENRES!!!!!!

As long as there's new ideas coming up, there will be twice as many a year later. That's the beauty of music.


32) Posted by: steven hubbard
July 16, 2004 11:56 AM

Emeinem is the greates rapper on the face of the earth.No other rapper could be as great as Emeinem.


33) Posted by: Chris
August 1, 2004 11:37 AM

I have read that the music industry has reached maturity. This means that in order for it to grow there needs to be a new technology and/or flood of new ideas to attract customers. I agree that most commercial music lacks creativity and uses old formulas for success. Rap and hip-hop are the last infusion of creativity upon the market. Cobain stated that every ten years a new evolution or trend hits the music industry. What is the upcoming trend? One of the possibilities involves immigration. New immigrants and domestic peoples will have the opportunity to mix the music of their cultures together, but I have not seen much evidence of this. For example, there is a large Hispanic population in the U.S. and I have heard Hispanic music. I have also heard Hispanic rappers, but the giants in the music industry seem to move these artists to markets outside the U.S. American Idol also has done a disservice, but their producers are laughing all the way to the bank. The tour just came through Columbus, Ohio this weekend and it was sold out. I guess there is room for all sorts and the singers do have talent, but it looks like pre-packaged bullshit to me. I can see it now, parents who failed rearing their daughters as child beauty queens will now look to American Idol for fortune and fame.
I am trying to start a venture in the music industry and recent trends make it very risky. My venture is in the local Columbus, Ohio music scene. Our live scene is very disfragmented now. Bar and venue owners do not work together to build up the scene. They seem to operate very independent of one another and only allow bands to play that are in "clicks". One advantage Columbus has is its demographics. There is a huge college student population here that enjoys live music. The majority live around the university, a.k.a. "High Street". Columbus is trying to clean up its university area and has forced many independent venues to move farther away from college housing. I remember 10 years age when you could walk to a venue from campus, get wasted, see a band and walk home. Now you must drive, which eliminates one person from drinking or jeopardizes all involved. There are a number of bands in town making money, but most of them are shitty cover bands. One of the most famous is a hippy band called, "Acoustic Hookah". They tour all over the country and make over a Million a year. These people started out in rich families who bought all their shit. It is hard to think of a band that came from poverty and generated success. I know that Columbus is in the middle of nowhere and is just a piss stop for most, but with the wave of internet distributaries and promotion, I thought we would get one band out there. I hope consumers become aware of independent labels and bands, but this trend has not generated much steam. I ask the readers, where do you think the next opportunity develops in the music industry.
Sincerely,

Chris from Columbus


34) Posted by: boom
August 16, 2004 10:59 AM

nice article, although what everyone is saying is this:bitching,bitching,bitching-including the oh great marissa which her talent brought her to these comments, making her geniuse, world-wide.

sorry for the rudeness, but you guyz need a wake up call-total globalization of information-including movies,music,books and whatever other means is going to be free for all to use. not now or in the next few years, but a next generation looks plausible.

the world is going through this process, whether you see it or not, as it was said here-it is much easier to dowload a song that you heard from the radio(even the internet radio) than to actually go out and buy it.


35) Posted by: J
September 7, 2004 8:29 AM

Is giving out your own phone number on the net grounds for institutionalization? :)

http://www.livejournal.com/community/marissamarchant/494.html

http://www.photoseen.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=albur46&id=bliss


36) Posted by: Gospel Greeting Christian E-Cards
September 26, 2004 11:14 PM

>>>>>The RIAA is not going anywhere however, and its our own fault that they have all the money. We couldnt find anything better to do all these past years but hopelessly worship whatever the hell new thing they were selling each month. So its fruitless to blame anyone but ourselves.>>>

I agree, and the RIAA scare tactics of suing the parents of young kids who've downloaded tracks on Kazzaa or grokster is not going to win them any new friends.


37) Posted by: LORDSON
October 27, 2004 10:34 AM

yeah really right.................................written in order


38) Posted by: Wenda
November 6, 2004 4:11 PM

Great article -
I will recommend it on
www.peterboroughjams.ca
for our music fans and artists.


39) Posted by: Seymore Buttes
November 10, 2004 11:31 PM

Tap that music industry ass


40) Posted by: adam
December 18, 2004 6:21 PM

When a really good CD comes out (such as Eminem's), of course people are going to rush to stores to buy it (vs. downloading it). One of the reasons for this is simply the instant gratification factor. You can download the tracks from a Music service (such as Napster) and then burn the CD. But this takes more time than rushing to the store to buy the CD. Plus, the burned CD tracks will be of lower quality. If a product is marketed well enough, people can't wait to get their hands on it. Just one POV.


41) Posted by: Wenda
December 23, 2004 10:36 AM

So what do you think the future holds for music files?
Will all music eventually just played over the internet with voice activation? You could sit in yout living room like Captain Kirk and say "Computer - Rolling Stones - Satisfaction" and it will play.
That would be ideal to me, and does not seem unrealistic.
But if that happens, that would mean that CDs become even more redundant.
The artists will make less and less money on CD sales, leaving them to rely more and more on income from Live entertainment and Merchandise sales, until the market is saturated.
So how then will the artists make up for that lost financing?
My first thought is that hey will have to rely on government funding.


42) Posted by: Robert
February 1, 2005 12:02 PM

There's been the emergence of indie labels and now the prices of home studios have really dropped,so about anyone can release a Cd and it's hurting the music industry big time.
When you have too much of a choice and with cd's prices ranging from 16-19$,it's hard keeping track with new releases.I've been burned so many times with albums that didn't measure up to what I paid for.At this point,artists shouldn't bitch about slumping sales,just being heard is a moral victory.
Then,an artist can win fans one at a time and who knows,he might sell a lot of Cd's.So in order to major labels to exist,they'll have to use some strategies used by independent labels,trim the budget and go back to the essence,which is dope music.
Doubts it'll ever happen!!


43) Posted by: wenda
February 1, 2005 12:28 PM

I found an article about CD sales being up for the first time in six years - here it is:

http://www.peterboroughjams.ca/classifieds/viewtopic.php?t=81

They think that the artists should produce enhanced CDs, like what you get when you buy a DVD. And keep the prices low. Lower CD prices may have caused the jump in sales.


44) Posted by: real artist
March 12, 2005 4:10 PM

when an music industry only plays african american music an every white person needs to sings like they are black there is something so silly about this.
The people are tackola.
Even Bela FLeck and the Flecktones suck.
that band has a terrible drummmer and low quality jazz.
where are the guitarists?
who cares about his tinny bango.
where are the other instruments, from europe, asia?
the people can't write music or sing. where are the values on art?
I buy paintings.
THESE PEOPLE DON'T LOVE ART, JUST MONEY.


45) Posted by: anthony
March 13, 2005 9:51 AM

Priscilla Hernandez and friends harassed a real artist off the net. Made up stories about them all over the net. these people aren't even famous and they are so against real artists and really talented people ..that even unsigned acts are trying desperately to form clubs that exclude and abuse really gifted people. this person and her sick friends hate people with real talent.

Priscilla Hernandez is like the people who have ruinded the music industry. she is anti talent scum..and so are her phony friends.

these people lie to protect their agenda...to promote untalented people and thus because a star ..they don't care about art.


Priscilla Hernandez and Mike burn suck.


46) Posted by: Slim Shady
March 16, 2005 8:03 PM

I think that Eminem does a great job in the music industry and his CDs sell well.


47) Posted by: Howie
April 14, 2005 7:32 PM

Billy Blass is obviously an ostrich,(head in the ground) comparing Slim Shady with Kool and the gang? Come on, I know opinions are like assholes....everyone has them but that was way offside. Elvis, The Beatles and Em all have one thing in common they CHANGED the music industry forever. Marshall is and will always be the greatest rapper of all time. Billy back your truck up and apoligize to anyone with an IQ higher than 100 and tell your mom to stop helping you write your opinions.

PS: It wasn't very fair of me to pick on Billy right now, because he is busy waiting in line for the next 2 months for the last installment of Star Wars to open.

God Bless America


48) Posted by: marissa marchant
May 2, 2005 9:32 PM

Exuse me, but I didn't write that comment about being a one woman beatles. I don't even like the beatles that much.

someone is posing as me on the net and people are insulting me all over the net saying that I suck...


everyone thinks that i suck...


www.marissamarchant.com

if you think they are right , go become part of the music biz.


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63) Posted by: harassed musician
December 21, 2005 1:56 PM

The internet is monitored by people who want control over the media and people's opinions. They try to sway people's opinions by making Google searches turn up negative about confident female composers . I have a friend who had to take her website down because she is a female who is a serious virtuoso and composer. These porn addicts calls themselves geeks and work for Wikipedia and defamed my friend. They also defame other people in false biographies about people. Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information.

The media and people who run the porn business do not want artist especially females to say they superior to sluts in the entertainment industry. They want women to have low self-esteem. They cyber-stalked my friend and hundreds of men were writing her messages that she should not think too highly of herself.

The internet has been filled with controlling men who want to put women in their place on public boards. one board said that she was UNbro.


64) Posted by: harassed musician my friend
December 21, 2005 1:59 PM

the harassed artist is my friend.

Wikipedia is a fraud.

It is not to be trusted. They are lying about people over there and hiring people to do it.

My friend is a composer and they are saying that she isn't known for anything at all, and posted a bio that no one can edit that she is some insane person who has no talent.

Sexist men who don't want women to succeed are all over the net monitoring and harassing women.

These men have no life.

They are nuts.

My friend has a new record company now. Her own and a new name.

They are still ranting about a woman who isn't under that name, because they harassed her.

They don't want non-sluts to succeed in music.


65) Posted by: Todd
September 10, 2006 12:57 PM

Sony's electronic company is sustaining the dying music industry, until they file for bankruptcy which will be sooner then we all think.

They are desperate.
Every week Britney's face is on People as a desperate attempt to sell albums etc....
they are lying to the public.

She did not sell 85 million albums.
Ophrah is not a billionaire, lie number one.

They are going down the tubes. Sony will not be a brand name of electronics in the near future.

Bela Fleck doesn't know much about music and that is why you think I am crazy. You know nothing about music and defend people who sing like William Hung.

Bela Fleck is proving how stupid he is.

He is so dummed down.

They are corrupt people.
They sign bands like Cumshot to have sex on stage as a desperate attempt to make money for the dying music industry and then claim it is the rainforest.

The dummies are dying, and they call people crazy because they are soooo dumb they say anything else.

They promote crack heads and gangsters, songs like- -MY -Hump and- ME So Horny, what good songwriter could enter this farce. Who would want to.



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