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| 1) Posted by: John September 6, 2003 8:48 AM I think that this conversation may provide one of the hints about where the Matrix story is heading. The conversation seems to suggest that humans and machines have some symbiotic relationship with each other and neither can survive without each other. I've seen hints in the Reloaded movie where machines are trying to imbue themselves with human traits, such as the Merovingian and Persphone, possibly trying to gain an understanding of human nature. Incidentially, I think this ties in with Matriculated, the last animated short in the Animatrix, where humans tried to get some of the machines to experience human emotions. There seems to be some thread in the entire Matrix story up to now that suggests that neither humans or machines will defeat each other but for their own mutal survival will need to co-operate. If Neo destroys the Matrix a huge number of persons already hooked in will die and ultimately a large human population of humans outside of the Matrix will be reliant on advanced technology to survive. This theory/musings are reliant on the fact that Neo, et al are outside the Matrix and not part of another Matrix (the false hope theory). Also I've only seen Reloaded and Animatrix once each so maybe incorrect with some of the information I've used. I'd be interested in any comments regarding this. |
| 2) Posted by: Ekin September 11, 2003 1:49 AM previous "One" already dead. It have mentioned in the first movie. |
| 3) Posted by: Anthony Rosania October 4, 2003 11:26 AM The second movie has me pretty convinced that the humans are still inside the matrix, even within Zion (matrix within a matrix). As evidence of the fact I turn to 1) Smith leaving the matrix, 2) Neo being able to sense the machines on the 'outside', and 3) the Architect's discussion with Neo. The architect basically tells Neo the same thing that Smith told Morpheus in the first movie, except he adds yet one more incarnation of the matrix to the story. The architect implies that event he 20th century earth version failed and they had to build a third one. Basically they had to build a matrix where there was 'something more' beyond the 20th century earth. I think that Hamann is most likely an AI construct, and was never noticed by Neo before because for some reason Neo wasn't able to notice he was in an 'outer matrix' prior to his discussion with the architect. Anthony |
| 4) Posted by: David Gordon November 11, 2003 8:40 PM Whether Zion is a construct of an outer 'meta' Matrix does not impact the storyline whatsoever, and for this reason I think it's more likely that in a rigid 'science-fiction' sense it's true. |
| 5) Posted by: Travis November 14, 2003 9:12 PM "I have absolutly no idea how you do some of the things you do" i think is a clue to this matrix that hamann in the movie had maybe seen the first one or like the source said there was 5 matrix's and i think that hamann seen another the "One" of them and has been faced with a decision...to try and give Neo a hint and tell him that he has to find out what his reason is and before it is to late for zion will be destroyed. |