She's kind of hawt.

What a bunch of crap. As David Letterman said to Bill O'Reilly, "80% of what you say is crap". Anyone taking Man Coutler seriously needs to grow a brain.

Here is a link to a review of this masterpiece that amply shows what a bunch of lies, distortions and falsehoods it is:

http://www.yuricareport.com/RevisitedBks/CoulterTreason.html

and it wasnt real hard to find.

Yep a wasted 2 months

The recent Oscar nominee, Good Night and Good Luck, is about a journalist exposing McCarthy for "falsely" accusing people of being communist spies. The damnedest thing is that the journalist was close friends with a communist spy.

It's important to keep in mind that "communist spy" refers to someone who was acquiring sensitive information for Stalin

On March 9, 1954, Murrow, Friendly, and their news team produced a 30-minute See It Now special entitled "A Report on Senator Joseph McCarthy."

Stalin died March 5 1953

Jim, when I said that the book would inspire anyone to do research, I meant a little more than a google search. It's simple to find a link that says "book is bad" and post it in reply to a review of a book you didn't read.

The link has a lot to say, but doesn't do Coulter justice. Her ultimate point about McCarthy is that he was right about there being communists in sensitive areas of the government regardless of what you think of him. The link does not dispute this point or even mention it.

bob allaway wrote: On March 9, 1954, Murrow, Friendly, and their news team produced a 30-minute See It Now special entitled "A Report on Senator Joseph McCarthy." Stalin died March 5 1953

Murrow was close friends with Laurence Duggan. He was a spy for Stalin in the 1940's and is mentioned multiple times in the Venona files.

Scott there are probably communists and socialists in sensitive areas today. Those are economic systems, not political systems. The fact remains that McCarthy was an alchoholic blowhard that ruined the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people.

Scott feel free to go to my Squidoo lens:
http://www.squidoo.com/impeachbush
there you will find a long list of books I will read before I waste precious moments of my life reading Man Coutlers lying fascist bullsht

Jim, you're probably right about there being communists in areas of the government today. But being a communist today is a little different than being a communist back then. Wouldn't you agree?

When you say that McCarthy "ruined the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people", do you have any examples?

I'll check out the book list. Is it yours?

Scott; yes being a communist today is just stupid. Being a communist back then would have taken a lot of courage. BTW I regard myself as a Democratic Socialist.

I would go into ancient history but i have a preseo to prepare.

Yes im the "lensmaster" for http://www.squidoo.com/impeachbush
Let me know if youre interested in squidoo i can get you a nice deal if you join thru me.

are you coming to cfunited?

Silly to be a communist? I dare say not - if you think U.S.S.R. = Communism, you're wrong. Communism is a parasite looking for hosts. The M.O. is to corrupt the host political system from the inside out. McCarthy's mistake was that he was right and he is dead - no way to defend himself, but that is an M.O. of leftist academia is it not? Impeach the whole Democratic Party. Read the following list presented to our government 10 years after Stalin died (who makes Hitler look like an amateur - ask any Ukrainian who was a "kulak"). Any of this look familiar?

Treason, indeed (in deed too).

Communist Goals (1963)
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one, or both, of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture -- education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etcetera.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit, and eventually dismantle, the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

Communist goal #15. Capture one, or both, of the political parties in the United States.

DNC's new motto: Corrupted from the inside since 1917?

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
46. Flouridate water supplies.
47. Kill all puppies and kittens

heh. Who wrote this crap? Its pretty funny though.
It's like a right-wing Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Communist Goals (1963)
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Presented to Congress by Albert Herlong, FL Rep
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=H000530

Seems he was an uncorrupted Democrat - I miss those days, now Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman are all we have.

Oh, OK, its some freeper crap. I was wondering how this guy got them, you'd think the USSR would keep it kinda secret. The truth is it's just some crap some guy made up to sell his fear-mongering crappy book.

"Florida Congressman Albert Herlong, Jr., at the request of anti-communist Patricia Nordman, read the 45 communist goals that were contained in Cleon Skousen’s “The Naked Communist” into the Congressional Record."

I thought they were found in the Soviet archives or something. BTW what kind of name is "Cleon"?

What is a freeper?

As far as the source, it is representative of the goals of the communist party. Another example, presented to Congress in a report by the ABA in 1958:

George Dimitrov, "Advice to the Lenin School of Political Warfare," as quoted in the report of the American Bar Association Committee on Communist Tactics, Strategy and Objectives--CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, August 22, 1958, page 17719. "As Soviet power grows, there will be greater aversion to Communist Parties everywhere. So we must practice the techniques of withdrawal. Never appear in the foreground; Let our friends do the work. We must always remember that one sympathizer is generally worth more than a dozen militant Communists. A university professor, who, without being a party member, lends himself to the interests of the Soviet Union, is worth more than a hundred men with party cards. A writer of reputation or a retired general are worth more than 500 poor devils who don't know any better than to get themselves beaten up by the police. Every man has his value, his merit."

So, this from another source seems to substantiate several of the points made by Rep. Herlong.

The name Cleon is familiar to me from an Athenian pol accused Pericles of embezzlement, one of the first documented cases of it (I think). Not sure of the relevancy of Dr. Skousen's parents choice of names, but at least its not a Zappa invention ;)

I figured out what Freeper is:

"Right-wing political activist. So-called, because it is the nickname of the denizens of the ultra-right wing Web site FreeRepublic.com. Similar to 'ditto-head.'"

Never heard of it before.

I'll be honest - when Scott started reading Coulter's book and kept hitting me with factoids, I got pissed and started hitting back with stuff from Robert Caro's "Master of the Senate". Then Scott would come back over the top with more stuff from Venona.

I've tried to help him do some of the research, but its tough to do unless you physically go over to the Library of Congress to get the Congressional Record pages. I haven't done that yet, because I've been working, but I told Scott next time he comes to DC, we'll go over there and get copies.

The fact is, based on the info that Scott has shown me, Coulter is right. I personally dislike McCarthy and his tactics, especially the way he treated his fellow Senators, but there were Soviet spies in high ranking positions of the government, and he got that right. Yeah, he was a drunk, and yeah Coulter is a ideologue, but just because she pisses you off doesn't invalidate her when she has fact to back her up.

As for Coulter being a man, I first met her when we stood in line near each other for Ronald Reagan's viewing. She's too skinny for me, but definitely not a man.

DC Guy, as previously stated unless you got up close and personal her outward appearances do not make her "definitely" anything. She's hawt, teh adams apple is suspicious tho.

Scott is a very stupid person and pro-facists like him have been using the Venona files for years. The Venona files were UNKNOWN to McCarthy.

The McCarthy apologists have been using Venona for years and its a well known fact that they are full of falsehoods and do not prove anything.

Its a very well known fact that McCarthy tortured and bullied thousands of innocent lives.

Just read the book, "My Life in France by Julia Child," to find one example of how McCarthy bullied people.

To day that McCarthy did not ruin lives, is to say that Hitler didn't slaughter innocent Jews.

We can only hope that one day Scott will experience the toruture and bullying that his hero brought forth...

SnugglyChips

Of course the Venona files were unknown to McCarthy - that's not the point. The point is that they do confirm that quite a bit of what he claimed was true.

Scott isn't claiming McCarthy as a hero. He's claiming that the guy got a bum rap. And he's not claiming that he wasn't a drunk or a bully. He's claiming that those who claim they were "tortured" and had their lives ruined actually lived out pretty good lives.

I would suggest that you add Treason to your reading list, so at least you can attempt to refute Scott without being forced to Godwin the comments.

RE: Scott is a very stupid person and pro-facists like him have been using the Venona files for years.
People like me have been referring to the Venona files since 1995 when they were declassified. So what?

RE: The Venona files were UNKNOWN to McCarthy.
No one said that McCarthy knew anything about them; but we do say that the Venona files prove he had a point about their being communist spies in the US government.

RE: The McCarthy apologists have been using Venona for years and its a well known fact that they are full of falsehoods and do not prove anything.
This is a well known fact? When did this become news? So far, I'm not sure you understand what the Venona files really were.

Here's some background for you to read up on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona

RE: Its a very well known fact that McCarthy tortured and bullied thousands of innocent lives.
Thousands? Do you know anything about McCarthy?

I'm also interested in what your definition of "torture" is.

RE: Just read the book, "My Life in France by Julia Child," to find one example of how McCarthy bullied people.
I'd be willing to check it out if you can list just ten names of the thousands of poeple tortured by McCarthy. Sound like a deal?

RE: To day that McCarthy did not ruin lives, is to say that Hitler didn't slaughter innocent Jews.
Again, name ten names of people who had their lives ruined by McCarthy. Hell, give me three.

RE: We can only hope that one day Scott will experience the toruture and bullying that his hero brought forth...
Having to reply to this dribble is pretty tough. Does that count?

"Majority rules" in America--NOT today. Conservative/Liberal::Republican/Democrat. Two Party System--Yes. Communists give one choice, we give two. Seldom three (ie. Ross Perot).

As for Sen. J. Mc Carthy--a tragic figure for a man in/of his times. He could have meant well. He initially thrived politically by his assume guilty (McCarthyism) tactics. This dubious distinction is often the first association that comes to mind. He went way to far. Some Communists were exposed due to his extra vigil/dilligence. Yet many innocents lives and careers were destroyed with his vitriolic accusations. The "Loyalty Oaths" were also a negative repercussion of this misplaced fevor.

Hitler was proud that he "eradicated" not only the Communist Party, but all the adversarial Parties in Germany (I just saw one of his speeches on PBS). OK US wins War. US was still in fear of Communists (for good reason).

Either way you look at it, it's a smudge on our America tapestry. All the "freedom" we were fighting for--except the freedom to expouse a different type or style of government? The strength of US Democracy (Republic) is supposed to allow for these differing views and to allow (not supress) their opinions. Thus, during the Cold War we were exhibiting our perceived weakness via outlawing the "Reds," "Pinko's," etc. We've improved since then; yet, we still have (essentially) a two Party System only!

The book by Ann Coulter-Treason was sure to be a best seller, it has all the trappings of one: superficial, provacative ("treason, terrorism, treachery'), and on top of that a blond who is sophicticatedly coy in a coyly domineering way. Wouldn't want to date her.

The persistant liberal or conservative mind-sets in this country has always disturbed me. Are you a red or black ant, pro or con, republican or democrat, yea or nay mentality is bothersome. Anything else, and your in a "grey" area to be ridiculed in some form or fashion.

I have read way too many books in my time--perhaps some 30,000. It was mostly a waste of time--always looking for the truth as something "out there." Yea, I joined the "Book of the Month Club"--Not. Decades were ill spent reading a book or two a day. Eventually, I turned to reading encyclopaedias.

Retrospectively, all things considered, just a few hundred books written throught history are worth their while. Most of the best are the oldest. What passes now for a "good" book you'll find on the Jew/New York Best Sellers ($) List! They sell!

At one time, I'd run to the book store and pay a heafty price for a new shiny edition. Who can afford the signed editions? 99% of these money/fame motivated tripe books are nothing but dust and feathers designed to sensationalize and razzle-dazzle and jerk us around with their glossed and copious buzz words. Ditto all the NYT and WP Jews/News.

Last century only a handfull of books were worth their purchase, as they encompassed, transcended, or otherwise excelled all the others. Which are these books, I shall not say. Just save your money till you somehow discover them. This current superficially sensational twit, I'll not waste my time or money in reading (being entertained).

What does all this have to do with McCarthy? It will not stand the "test of time!" That someone finally called the Senator's hand was great. He was found to be bluffing in-the-main. His lofty, greedy (for votes and recognition), grandstanding, accusations (at the cost to countless souls), is now infamous. Thus, we now have McCarthyism defined in the dictionary.

Be Careful--"You Are What You Read!" Unnecessary controversy is a flavor I despise no matter what the cone. Women will especially & thoughtlessly buy this TREASON book by the millions...It's the money stupid! "My Country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty..." Ya Sure! Terrorism is ignorant. And, ignorance is frightening! Hope I didn't "Shock n' Awe" anyone.

Joe, I'm going to focus on your comments concerning McCarthy to try and keep this page on-topic.

RE: Yet many innocents lives and careers were destroyed with his vitriolic accusations.

This is part of Coulter's premises. It's a common belief that "many innocent lives and careers" fell victim to McCarthy and his "accusations", yet no one can produce a single name of a person who actually had their life or career ruined.

You say "many", but can you name one? And if you can't name one, is it possible that McCarthy wasn't as bad as he's been portrayed?

RE: All the "freedom" we were fighting for--except the freedom to expouse a different type or style of government?

It wasn't that simple. Communism was considered quite the threat at the time and to have Communist spies in the US government was considered quite the security risk. Wouldn't you agree?

RE: Last century only a handfull of books were worth their purchase, as they encompassed, transcended, or otherwise excelled all the others.

Why not list a few? I'd love to check them out.

Here's a link to an excellent article on McCarthy as opposed to Man Coulters drivel :
http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=1539

As to who was ruined: Alger Hiss, obviously. At the State Department, Oliver Edmund Clubb and John Paton Davies, experts on China. Even Man Coulter admints this if you can finally find the admission in midst of her inchoherent ranting.

In Hollywood, Carl Foreman, Jules Dassin, Dalton Trumbo and Lillian Hellman come to mind.

Here is an excellent piece on Man Coulter by Ted Rall showing just how delusional she is:
http://www.boiseweekly.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A159404

In true McCarthy style, I have a here in my hand a list of 208 people whose lives were ruined by McCarthy!!!! (waves blank piece of paper)

There was a "Red Scare" all through the Cold War: from 1945 (immediately after ww2) to 1989 when the wall came tumbling down that seperated E. & W. Germany (namely Berlin). Due to this red scare/bear scare, McCarthy went a witch hunting. Nice vote getter. And, when one looks for witches they tend to find some. This is so especially when a witness mentions a name of a possible sympatheser or party member of the Communists.

The following spent 6 months in prison for refusing to testify to the question: "Have you ever been a member of the Communits Party...?" Thus, these refused to deny or confirm--therefore, a witch (they wouldn't float!).
Alva Bessa's screenwriting career ruined, Herbert J. Biberman, Lester Cole, Albert Malz, Edward Dmytryk, Ring Lardner, Jr., John Howard Lawson, Samuel Ornitz, Adrian Scott, and Dalton Trumbo. All the above have been popularized as the "Hollywood Ten."

Yes, these are but a very few of the witches discovered! Their sentences began 1950 and were also banished from Hollywood. Alexander Knox quickly left for England. Nedrick Young won Academy Award for the movie Defiant Ones bur failed to receive the award. This was standard practive for the witches

Another of Frank Sinatra screenwriters (Albert Maltz) wrote the screenplay Execution of Private Slovak, but Sinatre had him replaced after the prompting and pressure from the American Legion, Catholic War Veterans, Hearst Press, and even JFK's father.

John Henry Faulk awarded 3.5M (later reduced to 550,000.) in libel suit against blacklister. Alva Bessie wrote a nice memoir while blacklisted and in prison.

House on Unamerican Activieies (HUAC) blacklisters (also witchhunters) Kasan & Polousky also became victims when McCarthy was exposed in 1954. A Mr. Kimple (policeman) has a list of 1,000 witches, suspected of being Communist Party (CP), and had copies of their membership records. See--there were really witches. A Max Silver had around 4,000 on his list. 154 of these had their names revealed at a Congressional Hearing. The "naming of names," referred to such revelations. If you are on the list you are a witch.

Also for some time the Academy Awards refused to give any awards for blacklisted witches. This even included movie credits. If there were films that so much as hinted at the virtues of Communism even as far back as the 20s and 30's, such tended to implicate hollywood acording to the witchchunters. The witchhunters Chief of Staff was Senator J. McCarthy.

Most of the blacklisted writers, actors, directors, producers, etc. eventually went on to brilliant careers. There were over one hundred that made it despite the witchhunters, especially when (1954) another Senator asked McCarthy the killer question: Senator don't you have the decency...? This was the turning point of the witchhunter's career in that same year.

Countless careers were destroyed. Desperate ones changed their names to pseudonyms, left the country, or otherwise left Hollywood. As most (@80%) of movie and film makers in Hitler's Germany were of Jewish origin, this predominance carried over into the US. Hitler always did call the US a Jewish Democracy. That Lenin was a Jew and an original Communist, perhaps was an unspoken concern here too in the witchhunt.

I've heard many actors/singers as Michael Landon, Harry Bellafonte, Lloyd Bridges, Sinatra, Bogart, Orson Wells, and so on, say that virtually noone in Hollywood was without a degree of fear of these blacklistings/witchhunts. I guess this would cause more fear than the average US citizens' fear, known under the rubric as the Red Scare. When Hitler attempted to "eradicate" any opposing Party (he achieved this), the label of faschist or dictator had stuck with him throught his infamous 12 year career.

Of absolute importance here is that Constitutional Laws were broken. I like to compare the McCarthy strategy to what we have now in the Patriot Act and Hitler's Enableing Acts. It tends to give a government's President, Senate, House, & Judicial Branches, unquestioned and frightening powers. How would you feel if you were put on the/a Terrorist List? Well, good luck In whatever your pursuit!

"I know it wasn't that simple Scott, but it should have been! What happened to the Atlantic Charter, our own Constitution, and the UN. Why not compare it to political genocide. Perhaps, with candor/openness of one's political beliefs we wouldn't have had the witchhunt. Sure there were spies. We had spies then and have spies all over the planet now. That's why Hoover did background checks. And that's why some spies were caught. This was accomplished via evidencary law. Once Constitutional law is suspended/transcended, it's easier to do the second time. Think of the heat stroke. This tends to weaken the body's regulator. For example the Patriot Acts.

Most security breaches are done within our own citizenry (via non Communists)--for money. In the early '60s even JFK wanted to "dismantle the CIA into a thousand pieces!" His reasoning was that the US is so powerful and strong we didn't need any covert activity. The same applied today. It is as saying we are secure enough to absorb such elements--as the numerious "leaks" we evince today. Finally, we are presumed innocent until proven guilty. The mere "naming of names" by "witnesses" to the House on Unamerican Activities was enough to get blacklisted. We are scared of the terrorists but we don't disallow Muslims/Islams into this country. To most of them theocracy is a political party. And we all know what those "fundamentalists" do. So let's go after them. No, nevermind, I forgot we already are...

Just because a boxer is scared and/or losing a match doesn't allow him to suspend the Queensbury Rules and bite someones' ear or hit below the belt. We're a "free" country, we should always allow freedom of expression. You might say we have a 1st. Amendment in the Bill of Rights. The suspension of that Freedom of Speech is what weakens us. "All you have to fear is fear itself!" FDR

Scott, you might start with Albert Einstein's book: On Ideas and Opinions. Nice & easy read and covers virtually all subjects. Remember: "There is nothing new under the sun."

Between you two, there has yet to be one innocent person who had their life/career ruined by Joe McCarthy.

RE: Alger Hiss and the Hollywood Ten

It's a common misconception that McCarthy was somehow involved with the HUAC. This is completely false. HUAC was established in May 1938 before McCarthy was even elected to office.

Also, McCarthy was a member of the Senate, not the House.

RE: Carl Foreman, Jules Dassin, Dalton Trumbo and Lillian Hellman

None of these guys were accused by McCarthy.

RE: Oliver Edmund Clubb

Clubb was testified against by Whittaker Chambers in 1948 in front of the HUAC. Again, McCarthy was not a part of HUAC.

The news of this testimony didn't surface until 1951. The State Department suspended Clubb immediately.

When McCarthy was questioned about it, he said that had a file on Mr Clubb, but he added he "didn't feel I had enough on him at the time" to request an investigation.

(Source: The Witness and I by O Edmund Clubb Page: 136-138)

RE: John Paton Davies

First of all, Davies was among the guys recommending that America forsake Chiang Kai-shek and work with the communists in China.

I can't understand why that would make people suspicious.

Investigations started with HUAC in 1948. After 8 investigations, a Senate committee recommended that Davies be tried for perjury for denying that he had recommended various communists and communist sympathizers to the CIA. After more than a dozen investigations by the State Department, he was asked to resign.

More crap. I hope you and Man Coulter have a happy life togeter in your delusional far-right-wing tinfoil-hat wearing paranoid fantasy world. From the Columbia Encyclopedia: (http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0830834.html)
McCarthy, Joseph Raymond

McCarthy, Joseph Raymond, 1908�57, U.S. senator from Wisconsin (1947�57), b. near Appleton, Wis. He practiced law in Wisconsin and became (1940) a circuit judge. He served with the U.S. marines in the Pacific in World War II, achieving the rank of captain. In 1946, McCarthy defeated Senator Robert M. La Follette, Jr., for the Republican senatorial nomination and then overwhelmed his Democratic opponent in the election. His career in the Senate was undistinguished and obscure until Feb., 1950, when he won national attention with a speech at Wheeling, W.Va., in which he charged that the State Dept. had been infiltrated by Communists. Although a Senate investigating committee under Millard Tydings exonerated the State Dept. and branded the charges a fraud and a hoax, McCarthy repeated his claims in a series of radio and television appearances. Challenged to produce his evidence, he refused and instead made new accusations. When the Republicans assumed control of Congress in 1953, McCarthy, who had been reelected in 1952, became chairman of the Senate permanent investigations subcommittee (Government Operations Committee), a post in which he wielded great power; he used his position to exploit the public's fear of Communism.

Through widely publicized hearings, the use of unidentified informers, and reckless accusation, McCarthy doggedly pursued those whom he classified as Communists and subversives. Careers were ruined on the flimsiest evidence, and his methods came under increasing attack by the press and his colleagues. In Apr., 1954, McCarthy accused Secretary of the Army Robert T. Stevens and his aides of attempting to conceal evidence of espionage activities that McCarthy and his staff had allegedly uncovered at Fort Monmouth, N.J. The army, in turn, accused McCarthy, his chief counsel, and a staff member of seeking by improper means to obtain preferential treatment for a former consultant to the subcommittee, then a private in the army. After widely publicized hearings McCarthy and his aides were cleared (Aug., 1954) of the army's charges. However, in December the Senate, acting on a motion of censure against him, voted to �condemn� McCarthy for contempt of a Senate elections subcommittee that had investigated his conduct and financial affairs in 1952, for abuse of certain senators, and for insults to the Senate itself during the censure proceedings. After this rebuke, and with the Democrats again in control of Congress after the 1954 elections, McCarthy's influence in the Senate and on the national scene steadily diminished until his death. McCarthy's indiscriminate attacks gave rise to the term �McCarthyism,� which denotes similar assaults characterized by sensationalist tactics and unsubstantiated accusations.

See biographies T. C. Reeves (1982, repr. 1997) and D. Oshinsky (1983); studies by R. H. Rovere (1960, repr. 1973), M. P. Rogin (1967), A. J. Matusow (1970), R. Griffith (1970), F. J. Cook (1971), R. Feuerlicht (1972), R. Goldston (1973), D Oshinsky (1973), T. C. Reeves (1982, repr. 1989), M. Landis (1987), E. W. Schrecker (1988), and A. Herman (1999).

Im wasting way too much time on this...

"Addressing the Ohio County Women's Republican Club on February 9, 1950, Senator McCarthy first quoted from Marx, Lenin, and Stalin their stated goal of world conquest and said that "today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between communistic atheism and Christianity." He blamed the fall of China and other countries to the communists in the previous six years on "the traitorous actions" of the State Department's "bright young men," and he mentioned specifically John S. Service, Gustavo Duran, Mary Jane Keeney, Julian Wadleigh, Dr. Harlow Shapley, Alger Hiss, and Dean Acheson."

After 31 days of hearings, during which McCarthy presented public evidence on nine persons (Dorothy Kenyon, Haldore Hanson, Philip Jessup, Esther Brunauer, Frederick Schuman, Harlow Shapley, Gustavo Duran, John Stewart Service, and Owen Lattimore), the Tydings Committee labeled McCarthy's charges a "fraud" and a "hoax," said that the individuals on his list were neither communist nor pro-communist, and concluded that the State Department had an effective security program.

Jim, are you submitting the names in your cut-n-paste as actual innocent people who had their lives ruined by McCarthy?

the bottom line is the McCarthy was an evil alcholic
closet case bastard who associated with known sexual perverts J. Edgar Hoover and Roy Cohn and everything Man Coulter says is wrong. If she says 2+2 = 4, shes wrong.

Jim, it's obvious that you have some deep rooted issues concerning Ann Coulter and Joe McCarthy. This has caused you to not think for yourself and cut-n-paste text from various liberal articles.

Now you're resorting to talking about the sexuality of McCarthy's associates? Come on.

The fact remains that you still can't name a single innocent person who had their life ruined by Joe McCarthy. Ann Coulter may have said it, but she wasn't the person to do so.

Jim

That response flies in the face of the facts that Scott has presented.

It is a shame when presented with uncontrovertible facts that people close their ears and yell "nanananananananana" because they don't want to hear it.

This is part of the problem with politics in this country. People aren't willing to question their strongly held beliefs. I have to admit that when Scott first began his review of the McCarthy materials, I felt the same way about him you did. My opinion of him is no better, but I recognize that he was vindicated by history, at least. And that's thanks to Scott's research and confirmation of what Coulter wrote. He's not simply going off what she said. He's confirmed it through other sources himself.

She accused Ted Rall of contributing cartoons to Iranian newspapers and suggested the a Supreme Court justice be assissinated , among MANY other things. What's not to hate?

RE: What's not to hate?
You do understand the concept of satire, right?

%50 of the American public has an IQ less than 100 and when Ted Rall was receiving death treats from morons because of her "joke" he prpbably didnt think it was too funny. I posted the link earlier to his take on her humor.

"the task of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasise the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly"
Adolph Hiter - Mein Kamph p. 182

HUAC was formed in 1938 and McCarthy used it as one of his weapons in his arsenal of bigotry/prejudice and defamation of too many patriotic US citizens. He didn't have to personally point to all known "Communists," he had his henchmen. At best he went from a spitired defender of democracy to a fanatical political monger. It got him a lot of votes and recognition at first, but he was clearly embarassed and guilt ridden when exposed. Go ask anyone from the Screen Actors Guild, still living, who was in Hollywood during the "McCarthy era." They may better furnish you with names and the "terror" brought on by Sen. McCarthiasm. It was also clear that he unconstitutionally used many an underhanded tactic to appease his own hate/fear trip. Hoover just loved him--more files..

As I said before, FDR said: "All we have to fear is fear itself." And in this bible thumping America (especially at that time), it says in part: Isiah 41/10 "Fear not..." Did I mention he was a fear monger also.

Ann is as bad as a racist (I don't know what her race is--would someont tell me?). My previous suspicions in my earlier entry was that she was likely a superfical, money making, twit. After skimming through her dissembling prattle, I found my suspicions justified. To wit she says" "Except for occassional forays to the Wal-Mart, liberals do not know any conservatives." But Conservatives "already know liberals." Conservatives know liberals as "savagely cruel bigots who hate America and lie for the sport." Incredibly that is Coulter's final phrase. It closes her strange and disturbed book. A philosopher once said: "When you point a finger at someone, you are pointing 3 back at yourself--try this at home. With thumb up or down, it still applies. Perhaps she'd prefer a One-Party System (all Republican) as had Russia then or China today. Yea, thank's Scott for uncovering a real patriot!

So, maybe she really didn't need a ghostwriter for this one. I do wonder what her formal/informal education is? To completely disparage liberals/democrats is again depricating half of America. She also absurdly said these liberals were "more dangerous than Islamic terrorists"--wow. I've got to give her a 5 out of 5 for her ignorance. I knew I shouldn't have bothered to even skim her sour book. And that I have now discovered this is her 4th. book, I told you so: she typlifies another "hard-boiled capitalist" who doesn't even care who her mud hits. Or cares who buys her books, as long as they $$$. Boy is she a patriot. They should have named the Patriot Act (1&2) after her and McCarthy.

Being she completely discredits and questions the patriotism of 1/2 of the US, perhaps the House on Unamerican Activities could put her on the list of possible subversives/terrorists. If she really believes herself--"Annie get your gun." Or, she'd also make a good reporter in Iraq. And if McCarthy didn't ruin/besmertch/defame/antagonise/descredit countless innocent Americans there ain't a cow in Texas!

Anyone can discover the names (many of them for survival had to be changed) (I named @20); I rather not resuffer the angst and terror these innocents suffered. Perhaps Scott sees Ann as pretty, sexy, or something. Send her a loving e-mail and lay a heavy coin on her for me please! Another Biblical: "There are none so blind as those who won't see." Or more down home: "My mind's made-up--don't confuse me with the facts.

If this country wasn't so presently disenchanted with the Bushians and embarrased with all our country's doings, I think she'd have much mud thrown back at her. Oh, how women love controversy. Perhaps it's the frenzied back & forth they enjoy. Again, I'm certified to teach political science and history, etc. I'd enjoy hearing some of her quotations I've provided at her own College Commencement. And Ann, Don't ever go to Wal-Mart! Stay to Sacs, Tiffanies, etc., certainly you may get your picturesque outlet at these high-falutin' places. As for me, I'll not enter such scenes. And Ann, don't go to K-Mart either, where I went today, they only carry Marth Stewart stuff like garden hoses.

As for me, I'd refuse the compliment that I'm a conservative/Republican or liberal/Democrat. These persistent labels don't solve anything. I'm an independent thinking human being that happened to be born in the US on this planet earth. Save your money folks! All they want's your money. I like for her to be remembered as "Annie get your gun." Her clear stupidity, hate, and arrogance do seem to go together--as they always do. Where is her true grit--pen out of hand. There is such a thing as false prophets and false patriots! Hey "Annie get your camera," there are several more new positions for reporters in Iraq. Perhaps more fodder for another book to sell. But, you'll need more than your pen and a Republican/Jew Press! Oh, I forgot, these brands don't conscript or volunteer for such nonsense--they are busy counting their filthy lucre. And, Mr. McCarthy was so dangeriously narrow-minded his ears were touching! Thus, we have the term/word McCarthyism in nearly all dictionaries--go read some... And while your at it, please read some Classic literature--ignore most all the "best sellers" they won't stand the "test of time." They carry no weight with me. Most untold millions of books on this planet earth are mere dust and feathers. Gone with the wind!

Jim, it's a clear sign that two people can no longer discuss a topic when Hitler gets quoted.

Joe, your first paragraph makes it sound like that McCarthy was somehow involved with HUAC. McCarthy had absolutely nothing to do with HUAC and their meetings. He wasn't even in Congress when it started. He wasn't even in the House.

Calling it the "McCarthy Era" is misleading. There is not a single member of the Screen Actor's Guild, living or dead, that can say they were questioned/accused by McCarthy.

The facts are this: From 1950-1953, McCarthy publically questioned a total of 24 people. The most damaging things he said of these people were that they were members of the Communist Party.

From 1953-1954, McCarthy publically exposed 114 people. Most of them refused to answer questions regarding communist or espionage activities on the ground that their answers might tend to incriminate them. IMAGINE THAT!

Out of these 138 people, none of them can claim that they were innocent AND had their life/career ruined by McCarthy. You can't name a single person that meets this criteria.

Sure, you have named people, but these are either people who were part of the HUAC investigations (Not McCarthy) or they were somehow helping Communist interests (Not innocent).

And as for Ann Coulter, she's a pundit and makes a living out of getting people riled up.

OK Scott. You win! McCarthy is a paragon of Americana and Democracy (rule by the people--except "Commies," they're not people). His integrity is beyond reproach. He harmed no one's reputation whatsoever. We need to en mas apologize to him and his progeny. Universally remove the term "McCartyism" from all national dictionaries, reference works, and encyclopedias. And, have Bush posthumiously awarded the tragedically misjudged Senator the American Freedom award. And, use his unique technique as a current method to root-out all the terrorists. Perhaps, after the next election we'll see passed the McCarthy Patriot Act III !!!